Thread appearance in Chrome

[SliceOfDog]

It appears that to Chrome users such as myself, Threads have gone a little messy; avatar and user information is now placed above the posts themselves, which are small and outside of any sort of box. This is not an intentional update, probably just a code hiccup. Fortunately, everything still works, so it's purely visual.
Firefox appears to be business as usual, with no evident change. Any of you use IE, or... what's the other fairly popular one? Safari or something? How are those looking?

In any case, I'll let Daryn know (I think he's Firefox, so he probably won't have noticed anything) and we'll see if we can get it sorted

[Dusty]

Odd, Chrome is working fine for me. Have there been any updates recently? If so I missed them >_>

[SliceOfDog]

Hmm, well that's curious. It's definitely not only my end, because as I said, Firefox works normal for me, and Chrome isn't acting up on any other sites I've been on today. Well thanks for letting me know anyway, I'm sure it'll help

*Edit: This is what it's looking like for me at the moment

[Husk]

Weird. Chrome is working fine for me.

[Daryn]

I just tried it in Chrome here as well. Looks fine over here. I didn't make any changes to the forums either, so I don't know what could be causing this. Try to do a full refresh of a thread by doing a Ztrl or Shift F5. That may sort it out.

[Rick Canaan]

That is weird.

But then, I have come to expect "weird" from just about every browser except Firefox. I have seen Internet Explorer, Chrome, Safari, and all the rest, mangle our layouts, but never Firefox.

Either way, we are using standard CSS and HTML encoding, so if there is a problem, it is with your copy of Chrome, and not with us.

Who knows? Maybe it is just time to just ditch Chrome and start using nothing but Firefox. It is the only browser, in my experience, that doesn't crop up with these kinds of problems.

[Wolfgang of Borg]

(Irrelevant trivia: Safari uses WebKit for rendering, same as Chrome, and Valve's Steam, and most smartphones. WebKit is a fork of my own gang's KHTML.)

Sounds like something's broken within your copy of Chrome, Slice, possibly the cache'd copy of this site's stylesheet, possibly randomly or else due to Google's notoriously clever automatic incremental updater thingy. Tried reinstalling?

Does this forum have adverts? (Can't tell because i always install Adblock everywhere.) If so one of those may've gone bad.

Have you installed anything recently, or changed any settings? If so that's probably what's at fault, if not, try checking for malware or disc corruption...

[SliceOfDog]

Well obviously it's my end, so sorry for the false alarm. As for changing settings or downloading things, I haven't done recently. Been too busy with exams and such. It was working fine before today, I went out last night, exam this morning, then it wasn't working. Perhaps some pixies came and started downloading junk on my laptop while I was away XD

I've been considering moving over to Firefox for a while to be honest. The only thing that's stopping me is the long time it takes to open, which may be because it isn't FF4, but I'm worried that if I do get FF4 then the add-on that lets me watch American shows won't work anymore.
In fact, I've been meaning to ask you about that Borg. Will getting the new Firefox affect that add-on you sent me?

[Wolfgang of Borg]

(Sorry, had to go shopping. Always shop late in the evening, get cheap baked goods ^,..,^ )

Just checked http://adultswim.com , http://colbertnation.com and http://southparkstudios.com , all work, BBC iPlayer and C4 On Demand and youTube remain unaffected.
I do remember i had to mess with some cookies once to get Adult Swim working reliably (it would play one and only one episode of each show for some reason), can't remember if that was before or after FF 4.

Still don't see why you'd ever need to close Firefox (yeah ok every few days, that thing's memory-leaky like a sieve). Are you shutting your machine down fully every time, instead of just hibernating it (or whatever the Windows term is)?

[SliceOfDog]

Haha, wow, you listed pretty much everything I use it to watch! Fair enough, I'll get FF4 tonight then. And yeah, I shut it down every time. Forgive me for showing my ignorance here, but I've never fully understood Hibernate.

[Wolfgang of Borg]

Oh and Rick: have you tried Opera? Haven't used it in years myself (FF is easier to modify) but they invented pretty much everything good about modern browsers, everybody's been playing catch-up to them for more than a d3cade (in much the same way that all windowing GUIs are still just pale imitations of the 1970s work of Alan Kay).

P.S. Slice: you can probably install multiple different versions of FF at once if you want, not sure how you'd do it in Windows but i just install them under different user names...

[Wolfgang of Borg]

Heh sorry for the backseat driving Slice, obv computers fascinate me and i have Opinions about how to use them,... Hibernate should just write the memory state of all currently open apps to disc, so that when you wake it again your machine is in exactly the same state it was when you hibernated it.

P.P.S. never apologise for ignorance man. There's a great quote from the Frank Herbert book The White Plague which i can't find atm but it went along the lines of "never be ashamed of ignorance, the only thing to be ashamed of is failing to exploit an opportunity to learn".

[Rick Canaan]

Haha, wow, you listed pretty much everything I use it to watch! Fair enough, I'll get FF4 tonight then. And yeah, I shut it down every time. Forgive me for showing my ignorance here, but I've never fully understood Hibernate.

Heh sorry for the backseat driving Slice, obv computers fascinate me and i have Opinions about how to use them,... Hibernate should just write the memory state of all currently open apps to disc, so that when you wake it again your machine is in exactly the same state it was when you hibernated it.

In my experience, Windows Hibernate has never worked very reliably. You wake the machine up, and there always seems to be some kind of problem - it gets laggy, you've lost your connection to the web... kind of like using a towel over and over again; no matter how neatly you hang it up to dry after every use, it always eventually gets dank and stinky.



Besides that, most Windows machines I've ever used, boot up faster from a cold shutdown, than they recover from hibernation.

Oh and Rick: have you tried Opera? Haven't used it in years myself (FF is easier to modify) but they invented pretty much everything good about modern browsers, everybody's been playing catch-up to them for years (in much the same way that all windowing GUIs are still pale imitations of the 1970s work of Alan Kay).

P.S. Slice: you can probably install multiple different versions of FF at once if you want, not sure how you'd do it in Windows but i just install them under different user names...

Never tried it, honestly, borg. Not from a lack of interest, I just always liked Firefox after it came out. Besides, Daryn and I designed the forums using Firefox as its benchmark. We made sure everything worked properly in it - they working properly in other browsers more incidental than anything else. As a result, I've just settled in all nice and cozy with Firefox. I like it, and see no reason to use or try any other.

[Wolfgang of Borg]

> As a result, I've just settled in all nice and cozy with Firefox. I like it, and see no reason to use or try any other.

Same here, i've tweaked about:config (type it into your address bar...) so much and added so many bookmarklets and extensions and Greasemonkey userscripts and Stylish CSS tweaks (i like large light-on-dark text everywhere) that switching to anything else now would be like moving house or something.

> Besides that, most Windows machines I've ever used, boot up faster from a cold shutdown, than they recover from hibernation.

Really? Wow, it's like the opposite with linux, and if you include the time it takes to start up apps and get them all in the state you want.. the only time i ever do a full reboot is when there's a kernel upgrade, every couple of months. If only more games and major apps (Adobe CS *sigh*) supported it...